Charles Clifford Burks

Charles Clifford Burkes in Bremerton,WA at the Pugent Sound Naval Shipyard (1942__)

Dickenson, Texas

March 10th,2013

Janellen Valle

Palo Alto College

History 1302 - Spring 2013

 

INTRODUCTION

Charles Clifford Burks was born July 15th, 1925 in Jasper, TX. "Cliff" was the only son out of 5 children born to Charles Burks and (?+? )Burks, and out of the 5 he was the second youngest. His sister Margie was the youngest, and subsequently the only one of his siblings still living. The three other sisters were named Dorothy, Eleanor, and Sybil from oldest to youngest. Jasper was home to the Burk family for a short time before they packed up and moved to Galveston. While there, Cliff went on to attend Ball High School. It was approximately 8 months before his 17th birthday when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. According to Cliff, he and his classmates were "fighting mad" and wanted to enlist. Cliff's mother made him wait until his 17th birthday to enlist, and even then she had to sign for permission. Cliff still remembers how hard she cried when she signed the documents. Cliff left high school prior to graduating with many of his friends and schoolmates, to enlist in the armed services. Cliff chose the United States Navy. A month after his 17th birthday Cliff began his basic training in Washington. After basic training his first assignment as a newly-minted Navy gunner, was in Bremerton, WA to join the crew of the USS Nevada at the Puget Sound Navy Yard. The Nevada had just completed repairs caused by the damage it had incurred during the attack on Pearl Harbor, while there is had been modernized and retrofitted. The Nevada and crew sailed to Alaska to where they provided fire support during a key strategic battle in the Aleutian Islands, the Battle of Attu. Cliff claimed that they were supposed to capture Japanese prisoners, but the battle was brutal with very few Japanese survivors left to capture. After capturing Attu back from the Japanese, the Nevada was then attached to numerous convoys to act as an escort. It continued its assignment with numerous convoys until April, 1944 when it arrived in the United Kingdom in order to prepare for the invasion of Normandy. From Normandy and the infamous D-Day, the Nevada and numerous other ships went to assist in Operation Dragoon in the Mediterranean. Later, in August, the Nevada provided fire support at Iwo Jima, and then in March, the same support for ground troops in Okinawa. Cliff remembers details of these events vividly, almost as vividly as the day in which they occurred. All in all, Cliff spent "3 years, 2 months, and 12 days" active duty in the Navy, on the Nevada during wartime. Cliff continued as a reservist for approximately 8 more years for a total of 11 years served. When Cliff returned to Galveston he resumed "normal" life as a young man. Shortly after arriving back in the states, Cliff reacquainted himself with a girl he knew and admired, Virginia Gillmore, who was 5 years younger. After stealing "Jenna" away from a "no-good" boyfriend who was "steppin' out" on her, Cliff and Virginia were married just 2 weeks after her 18th birthday. They were married for almost 62 years until her death last year. Cliff and Jenna had 5 children, 3 boys and 2 girls. The oldest is Clifford, followed by Cindy, the Larry, Kerry, and lastly, Dan. Cliff provided for the family by working in with the Galveston Boatman's Association doing various duties such as tying up, then eventually piloting tug boats. After some trouble with the Italian Mafia who was "running the shipyards" at the time, Cliff took up construction with his father and eventually built a successful home building business in which he constructed entire subdivision, including most of what is now Tiki Island, just West of Galveston. From 1985 to 1995, Cliff was appointed "Commissioner, Board of Pilots" under then Gov. White, a position which is what is now labeled as 'Harbormaster" in Galveston Bay. He was later (1995) commissioned as an Admiral of the Texas Navy by then Gov. Bush, which holds a lifetime membership. In 2000, Cliff and a few of his classmates who left Ball High School in order to enlist, were given their diplomas. Since participating in World War 2, Cliff has raised his 5 children, attended the University of Houston, went to flight school and received his commercial pilots' license, ran two very successful businesses, and has an official day in Tiki Island named after him, "Cliff and Virginia Burks Day".

 

TRANSCRIPTION

Can you describe for me, your recollections of the invasion ofNormandy?
We were briefed in Portland, Main on the Normandy Invasion….we went by way of the North Sea to Portsmouth , England…no, we went to Greenwich, Scotland, then we went down to Portsmouth, England…and that's where the invasion was supposed to be launched from….and, uh…but they postponed it and made it the 6th, instead of the 4th. There was a tactical reason for that…Eisenhower was a General then, came by..we had a big room, long room on our ship, and we had a map of the whole area that we was gonna attack and hit..each one of us had a specific targets to go by..me being in mount two, had my target, and mount four up above, we both were they dame division with the same target….same area but different little fixed targets. And uh, we started landing…we hit them at five o'clock in the morning, we were the lead ship..we had the Admiral on board..Admiral Arley Burk….I was the gun pointer, I pointed the barrels whichever way they are supposed to be. I took orders from the gun Captain, which I later on inherited that job. Anyway, we hammered them there for about two or three days, then we started landing troops.

Do you remember what beach? If you hadn't have asked me that…..we were at Utah I believe…(pause) that's not it, Utah was the beach below us….but anyway I can't think of the name…….68 years is a long time (laugh)…. We landed troops there and they were really getting hit hard…finally they made it towards a cliff area that gave us more problems than anything, but we kind of whacked the machine gun crews off…but then we got in closer because their big main battery we had pretty well destroyed..that was on the 5th day…those guys were yelling from the beach "you got to get closer!..you're shooting beyond them!"..well, our trajectory told us where we were at..our bullets were passing about that far about the ground (paces hand about a yard off the floor)and they wanted us to get lower..we were reluctant to do it because somebody was gonna jump up and run or something. That bullet would have annihilated the guy. We were telling them that and they said "shoot anyways!"…I remember that very clearly..that they tried to get us to shoot down..I could see them moving..see where the bullets were hitting. Well on the 5th day they started to send in paratroopers in..we had beat them back enough that..we could get heavy equipment in, tanks and things like that..and we just took an army of people. It's hard to imagine the amount of airplanes in the air at that time, the bombers…were from one side to another and loaded with paratroopers..some of them were pulling gliders behind them, they had paratroopers in them too..most of those guys crashed…well, a lot of them did..but the planes were as far as you could see..this way to this way…they just went over for hours. That gave us enough land base…we hammered there about a month.

Omaha Beach D-Day June 1944

Where did you go after Normandy and the Mediterranean?
We left there and went to the Pacific…that was in late '44..August…We went to Iwo Jima and landed, we hammered them for four days….we got there on Valentine's day..February the 14th, 1945. ..and we landed troops on the 19th. We really shot the place up bad, I mean as bad, or as good as we could…everybody, there was a whole bunch of ships there. The battleship Texas..was involved, and then the Arkansas..they looked alike, the only way we could tell the difference is that the Arkansas was camouflaged , and the battleship Texas was the color it is now, that blue looking color. Uh, but anyway, all the pictures made from that day was taken from our ship by the Associated Press. We loaded people in there..That was a terrible thing, those guys…those Marines really got hit bad. We lost half of them..50%, 10 thousand people we lost there..the Marines really caught it…We finished up in Okinawa, they finally secured it. We killed over 25 thousand Japanese on that island…they fight to the last guy. We just had them outsmarted and outgunned…we (the Arizona) could furnish the shore power that they (Japanese) couldn't…Okinawa was a bad fight, we lost a lot of people there, good guys..one from San Antonio that I showed you a picture of…..

Was this the friend that was a baker you were telling me about?
We got information..they gleaned information out of the people that were fighting the war, that was a tremendous mind thing for President Truman at that time for him to make the decision to drop the atomic bomb 'cause he knew it was gonna kill lots and lots of innocent people….at Hiroshima and Nagasaki…so we knew that the bombs were on their way. They came by way of the..the..uhm…the Indianapolis..the cruiser Indianapolis brought them over. They brought them to the Phillipines and then they were delivered…they were flying out of the philipins..no, they were flying out of Guam…took them to Guam, that's where they dropped them off. They was later sunk right there after the war was over..the Indianapolis....

5 inch gun crew

Were you often scared?
You know, you're never really scared during an operation…your confident..you don't even think about being injured, I never did and most of the guys didn't…..you're so concentrated, you've got to get that guy..and you're gonna get him, you know in your mind you know you're gonna do what you set out to do..if you don't you've lost everything. It's only when it's all over with, when you go looking.. and there's this guy dead, and then so-and-so..like that baker I was telling you about..little things like that, that's when you go to being frightened, that's after things settle down…I guess that's why we do that we we're young… The only time I was really afraid was when I was in the North Sea and we were escorting the ships over..they sent the battleship Scharnhorst over there..to take care of us. We knew that we had a battle, they had bigger guns, they were a faster ship….we knew it was gonna be a battle when we got together. That's the only time I was ever frightened ahead of time….but you got shake that, you gotta get that out of your mind if you're gonna be effective. We knew that…so we just went to other things..play cards or do something to get that off your head. We were fortunate that the British air force attacked that ship..before we got there, and they destroyed the rudder. It (Scharnhorst) was hard over, they couldn't do nothin' but run around in circles. It was a heyday for the rest of them because they couldn't change their guns fast enough..couldn't maneuver. It was a drop dead situation before we got there…we didn't even fire a shot, but anyway, they sunk them. We was tickled to death…but they were out to get us, that was their specific job. Intelligence had told us that.

Tell me about some ways you guys entertained yourself on the ship to keep you from thinking about things like that.
Well, we had boxing matches…we had a band on there…these guys would get out there and play and , you've seen 'em, two guys dancin' the jitterbug….and then we had fights. We would put on the boxing gloves and say "I can beat that guy!"..well let's go see, get in the ring….there's gonna be organized fights….nobody ever got mad..we would just get in there and fight to see what we could do. Incidentally, I was number two, I could beat everybody..but there was one guy..boy, that aggravated me more than anything. I could not beat that guy, he whooped me every time….gosh, that guy was swift and he hit hard…. Little things like that kept you occupied I guess…and then we had movies down below. Nobody could go topside smokin' or anything like that..or any kind of light. We had compartments you go through if you was going outside there would be another door right there..you go through that one it shuts all the lights off in here. Then you close this door and the lights would come on in that one…at nighttime we didn't want the enemy to get a fix on us..

What was the most uncomfortable part about living on a ship like that?
I guess taking a shower. First you was limited…we took a shower with 3 of us..there were several showers around the ship..toilets also. Toilets were lined up on the back of the ship..you sit in a little seat like this, and you shared the armrest with the guy next door…and I've seen those stalls full. I used to wait until everybody went to bed…and then taking a shower..three guys. One guy would get under there and wash down real good, then he got out from under it and soaped down real good…then the other would get in..then it just went round until you got through. But you had to preserve water, we made our own water…water was precious. Primarily you want it for drinking and fixing food..you shut the water off as soon as the last guy is through…

. How did you make the water?
We distilled it out of sea water….you couldn't store that much obviously, we had tanks that carried a certain amount of water..it made water night and day..to keep that built up.

What were your feelings when you returned home?
I laid down and slept a lot..I liked classical music on the radio, and I would sleep a lot. My parents just left me alone….

Cliff Burks second from left

Is there anything you would like to add?
That's a difficult question, I'll tell you..the reason it's a difficult question..it's the psychology of things….We were raised in the country, I mean, I was raised in Galveston but we moved into the country for a length of time..there are four or five real important things in your life: God is number one, number two is family life, number three is just to be fair to everybody…watch how the animals do, from the comfort of a chicken, to the passiveness of a cow. Those are the things I remember…people just need to be kind to one another.

Shadow box full or memories

Is there anything else you would like to add to this interview?
Response

 

Janellen Valle and Cliff Burkes taken in Dickenson,TX March 2013

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