Rose Mary Moczygemba (nee Greaves )

Rose Mary as a Junior in High School. Picture taken by her former boyfriend Tom Messner who worked at Studer's a popular photography studio at the time. Taken in 1958.

La Vernia, Texas

March 17, 2008

Joseph Anthony Pais

Palo Alto College

History 1302 - Spring 2008

 

INTRODUCTION

Rose Mary Greaves was born in St.louis, Missouri, december 9, 1941 to Raymond and Roselyn Greaves. She has two siblings, Roy and Roberta. Rose mary lived in carlinville, illinois until she was eleven, then moved to st.louis and lived there for three years. She later moved to San Antonio, Texas in 1955 around the age of 14, because her fathers job as a federal meat inspector was transferred to San Antonio, Texas.

Rose Mary worked as a dime store clerk, a grocery store checker, a proof operator at a Federal Reserve Bank and at Frost National Bank, she worked for pilgrim cleaners as a clerk, an alteration seamstress, and a book keeping clerk. She later worked as an inventory control clerk at the lone star liquor company, she was a service representative, a training instructor, and a policy service manager at USAA. Since retirement she has been a substitute teacher at the La Vernia Independent School District, an insurance representative at pruski insurance, and now considers her self "a jack of all trades" she currently works as a book keeper and a secretary for Mills concrete.

Rose Mary Greaves later married Henry Moczygemba and became Rose Mary Moczygemba, she also had 4 children, Rosemarie, Gary, Daniel and Tony. They built their first house in 1957 in La Vernia, Texas. She enjoys sewing reading and playing with her grandchildren. She teaches religion classes at St.Annes catholic church and also leads prayer services at the local nursing home. She considers herself to be a middle class citizen in society. Some topics of discussion could be Life in Texas, Civil Rights, growing up in San Antonio and the changing roles of women. Her topic preference is the changing roles of women. Her connection to me is that she is my grandma, her connection to the topic is obviously that she is a woman and has been around long enough to see the many changes of the roles of women.

 

TRANSCRIPTION

what are some of your earliest childhood memories?
My earliest childhood memory is walking a half a block towards a railroad station to meet a man who was my dad coming home from World War II my sister and I held his hand to walk back to our house and once we came inside he wanted us to sit on his lap and we wouldn't do it because he was a stranger.

Why was your father in India during World War II?
It was part of the military effort and he worked in the military post office making sure that our soldiers got their mail from home. The bad water in India rotted his teeth and he had to have dentures when he was in his 50's. He did actually fly around the world in an army cargo plane, because he flew one way to India and the other way coming home from India. About 53.

Where there a lot of children without fathers because of WWII in the area?
I am sure there were but I was only five at the time so wasn't aware of it.

What type of toys did you have?
Dolls, I was a girl. Of course when I played with my cousin Bob under the oak tree, we would play with trucks and tractors and make rows in the dirt and plow fields under the big oak tree on my grandparent's farm.

(Left to Right) Roberta, Their mother Roselyn Greaves and Rose Mary. Was taken in front yard of Carlinville, Illinois in the winter of 1944. (To the right of the picture) is a letter sent to Roselyn from her husband Raymond Greaves, who was stationed in India during WWII. On the bottom is the envelope he used to send his love to his family he missed.

In the area that you grew up in was there a lot of racism?
I wasn't aware of it although later I did understand that the reason why I didn't see any black people in Carlinville, Illinois was because at the time they had a local ordinance that no black people could be within the city limits after sundown.

When did you first become aware of racial issues?
I first became aware that there was such a thing as a Negro race when I still lived in Illinois. In my girl scout manual there was a sentence about the negro race being equal to the white race and should be treated with respect, and that is the first time I realized that there was another race, because prior to that I had only seen white people. When I moved to St.Louis that was the first time I went to school with black or Negro race children, and again I treated them as equals because I saw no reason not to. I wasn't aware of the Civil Rights movement, of course this was mid-50's and I wasn't really aware that they rode the busses or street cars any differently than we did. When I moved to San Antonio there was one black girl in my class, and again she was treated as an equal, but whenever I started dating I really had a crush on this tall, dark headed young man with wavy hair and his name was Tony, and I just thought he was so cute. All of my girlfriends told me that I couldn't date him because he was Hispanic, he was Spanish and I was white, and you just didn't date people from other races here in San Antonio. So that was the first clue that I had that not all races were equal, but again in my mind they were all equal and I was not really aware of all of the, although I heard on the news about the racists and strikes, and Martin Luther King and so on. By that time I was busy raising my children and I didn't get into it first hand, I first became more involved with race issues in the 1990's whenever I became involved with the National Conference of Christians and Jews, because they made me aware that some people are not treated as equal as they should be and are looked down upon and I always just felt that that was wrong, and I learned that your really affected by how you are treated as a child. After attending several of the Any town camps, I talked more to the black women at USAA that were co-workers, and sometimes I had a hard time getting them to accept me. One time I was at lunch with a group of black women and they were talking about shopping or something and the one particular black women spoke about an incident and said that there was a white woman, and then she looked at me and realized that just the tone of voice that she had used let me know how she felt about white women in particular, because of the way that she was raised. I heard from other black women about having to walk to school and the white people would spit on them on their way to school. I just could not imagine people having so little respect for another person because of the color of their skin that they would spit on someone on their way to school. That was just mind boggling to me that people would just be so disrespectful of another human being that was made just like god made themselves.

Did you ever see any lynching or hear about them at all?
No.

What type of school did you go to and where was it located?
Carlinville, Illinois, we went to the south school, there was a north school and a south school. I walked five blocks to school to the public school system.

How were the classrooms conducted, was it like an all girls school?
No, all of the children from the community. Were the teachers strict, did they hit the kids like they used too, well until now of course where you can't touch a kid? I don't remember seeing corporal punishment in school.

(Top Left from Left to Right) Roberta, Roy and Rose Mary in front of St.Patricks school in St.louis, Missouri in 1955 and was taken by Roselyn Greaves. (To the Right) is Rose Mary's final report card at Blessed Sacrament in San Antonio, Texas in 1958-1959. (To the bottom Left) School picture of Rose Mary taken her freshmen year in 1955-1956 at Blessed Sacrament.

When you graduated what was your class rank?
I graduated from high school second in my class, I was salutatorian.

About how many people were in your class?
About 53.

And why didn't you go to college?
I didn't go to college because I was in love, and I had decided to get married and at that time a woman didn't have a career and a home and children so I opted to get married and have a family instead of going to college and becoming a librarian. Did you and grandpa ever talk about you going to school or anything of that nature? We discussed it briefly before we married, I wanted to go to college for a year or too but he claimed that he would not wait for me that long, and I didn't want to lose him, so I got married and gave up my dream of going to college.

What did you expect after marriage, like the condition, or like a house? Some women are scared of the honeymoon night.
No, I wasn't afraid, although I was a virgin when I married and of course I had heard that the first time was going to hurt. But my husband was and still is very gentle and very concerned about not hurting me and about pleasing me before he pleases himself and so we had a very successful honeymoon and a very successful marriage as far as our sexual lives go.

What was the dating life like back then?
My parents were fairly strict, I wasn't allowed to date until I was 16 and I had a curfew usually I had to be in my midnight. I would date another young man named Tom on Thursday night, or I would see Tom maybe on Friday night. Saturday night I would see Henry, who became my future husband, and we would attend church together on Sunday morning before he had to go to work; he worked on Sundays at the time.

And that was in San Antonio?
That was in San Antonio, Texas. I was a junior in high school when I started dating.

(Top to Bottom) Rose Mary Greaves and Henry Moczygemba reading a brochure for their honeymoon at Rose Mary's parents home in San Antonio. (To the Right) Is their wedding invitation that they paid for themselves. (Photo taken by Roselyn Greaves) Taken in 1959.

Was there a lot of talk about sex at the school or just in general?
It was kind of hush hush, because at the time I was attending Blessed Sacrament Academy, which was an all girl school, so we didn't have any boys to flirt with except when we went to youth group meetings at St. Leo's Church, which sponsored a youth group, so this was where I met boys of my age. And we had formal dances, the school sponsored formal and semi-formal dances four times a year so this was an occasion for myself as a girl to invite a boy that I was interested in dating.

Did the man still ask the girl's father for her hand in marriage?
Definitely. Definitely. Yes, Henry was very concerned about having to go talk to my father and ask for my hand in marriage.

What were the wages at your first job like?
My first job was at Kress, which was a dime store downtown about a block from the Alamo. I worked during the Christmas rush season and I was paid 50 cents an hour. I took the city bus to the job and worked like 3 or 4 hours or whatever it was and then took the bus back home.

What did you spend your money on?
Clothes of course. That was the way I could go buy a new dress.

And what about school costs, because you were going to a private school for a time?
Before I was working my parents paid the tuition, and after that first job at Kress I got a job at Handy Andy making 60 cents an hour. At that time that was a more permanent job, and so I started paying my own tuition which was about 20 dollars a month, and I was bringing home about 13 dollars a week.

What would you say that rate would be now, like in comparison to the time, would you say that was more like minimum wage now?
Yes, I would compare that to minimum wage now.

When you did move in with grandpa, what were some of the most common household items that were available? What items were rare in the house?
A t.v. was probably rare, we did have a small portable t.v., of course we didn't have microwaves yet. We did have a gas stove at the first apartment we rented, and a refrigerator. We did not have a washing machine or a dryer; we had to go to the laundry mat each week to do our laundry. We had a bed, a night stand, lamps, sofas, chairs.

What types of things did you have while you were growing up in comparison to that?
About the same, we bought our first TV. in about 1953 after my dad had moved from Carlinville, Illinois to St. Louis, Missouri. He had gotten a job as a federal meat inspector, and we lived in a small apartment and I remember getting our first t.v. while we were in that apartment.

What professions were available to women during that particular time frame?
You were expected to become a teacher or a nurse, or a nanny, a librarian, things like that. You really were not encouraged to go into the sciences as far as being a mathematician, a scientist, or a doctor. Nursing was okay but you really weren't given the opportunity to be a doctor. Usually on career day when they came out to speak to the girls at blessed sacrament academy about careers after high school, USAA came in and invited us to be clerks, file clerks or we could go to the telephone company and be a telephone operator or you could be someone's secretary that was a career that was open. My sister in law Louisa was quite good at short hand and she became a private secretary at a insurance company.

What types of changes have you seen as far as the job market goes?
Now women are encouraged to reach for whatever goal interests them that God has given them the ability to do, as far as the sciences as far as the math and public speaking, politics, using whatever God given talents they have. They are encouraged to use them and have both a career and a family.

Church was of course important during that particular time, would you say that you attended almost every Sunday?
Oh yes, I didn't miss church unless I was sick.

What changes have you seen in the Catholic Church throughout your life?
There was a lot of changes because of Vatican II. Prior to Vatican II, the priest had his back to us during the Sunday service, which was called the mass. You usually did not know Latin, you were not automatically taught Latin in school. The mass was in Latin so you didn't know what was going on unless you had a picture where you could say okay, the priest is standing here now so this must be where we are in the mass. Usually you took your rosary and you prayed your rosary during mass, because at least you knew the Our Father Hail Mary Glory Be and could be praying while you were in church. With Vatican II, the priest turned around and faced us, we could see better exactly what he was doing with the prayer book, with the cup and the chalice, and also because he was speaking in English you could respond and participate in the mass, instead of merely being an observer

What do you feel still needs to be changed in the church, is there anything that you see that needs to be done?
I think that we need to let go of some of the traditions as far as only men being priests, because I have in my studies to become catechist for children and the right of Christian initiation. I have met many teachers, who are very strong in their knowledge in theology, and they would make excellent priests and they are not priests because they are either married or because they happen to be a woman. Because of the time that Jesus lived, women were property, they were not equal with their husband. They did not or they were not encouraged to be priests although they were frequently to support Jesus and his followers with whatever money they had, they cooked, they washed, they cared for them, they were not equals. Where in today's society women are expected and want to be equal with the men in their lives, and if they have the God given talents to be a priest, I don't think their gender should prevent them from being a priest. But it is going to be a long time before the Catholic Church, the hierarchy of the Catholic Church, accepts this idea because it has always been a tradition for only men to be priests. I won't live to see a woman priest.

What do you think about priests being married or not married, and do you feel that is really right towards them when family is such a big part of the Catholic Church?
I think again it is up to the individual personality. There are some men who could balance both a family life and their duties as a priest, and there are some that would have a hard time coping with the stress of leading both roles. But again you could look at the other side that if they choose a true help mate, that the wife can be almost a co-priest with him and that she could be very supportive in his work in leading people with God. The problem with married priests, which is why many centuries ago, if the church law, it is not God's law, was passed that a priest could not be married was because they tended to want to accumulate these riches to pass on to their children, and that is understandable from a parents' view point, I have worked 20, 30, 40, 50 years and I want to hand something down to my child, but as a priest you don't own the home that you live in, and therefore you would not be able to pass it down to your child, you would have to raise your child to be self supportive in whatever profession God called him to be.

What are some of the things that you would want to pass on to your children?
I want to pass on to them my faith in God, just as my mother passed on to me. I think I am a strong catholic now because she was. She never wavered in her faith in God, she attended church very regularly, and she said the rosary very regularly. I remember going to daily mass with her parents and so that is a legacy that has been passed down to her mother's side of the family and I would want to pass this down to my children and grandchildren. Although you have some rough areas in life if you are fully living life you are going to have joys, but you are going to have sorrow too, and the way to get through the sorrow and the difficulty is through your faith in God that you are wrapped in his arms and he is going to guide you through it.

(Left to Right) Anthony, Daniel, Gary, Rosemarie in front of their new 1972 Pontiac Catalina. This picture was taken by Rose Mary of her children just before  taking Gary to play in a baseball game. Taken in 1972

What were some of the things beyond faith that your mom passed on to you?
She passed on her love of clothing and pretty shoes, and liking to do crafts, whether it was sewing or crocheting or just making little items to give as gifts to other people. She enjoyed doing that and I find that I enjoy doing that also.

What were some of the things that your father passed on to you?
My father passed on his gift of honesty, intelligence, and the ability to do what is right all the time no matter how difficult it is. If I know this is the right thing, I am not going to sway from it because it is easier to go the other way. He had a very strong sense of integrity, and this is what caused him to leave the meat business, he was a federal meat inspector. This is what caused him to leave his vocation as soon as he was able to retire because some people wanted him to pass meat that would not have been safe to be passed, so he was constantly under stress to do that and he refused to do that. If there was something wrong on the killing floor of the packing floor of a meat company, he would close it down and cost that business I would suppose thousands of dollars of money until they had the problem cleaned up and it could be reopened again. And he would not back down from that, it was his job be sure that our meat was safe and he stuck to that all his life.

Was there anything that someone has ever wanted you to back down from and you wouldn't waver from? Or maybe you did and you regret that?
Not that I can think of at the moment other you know than matters of my faith if someone told me you know no you don't have to do this it's just rule to catholic church that's okay. I have accepted the rules of the catholic church and I intend to live by them and in my earlier years I saw everything in black and white and as I matured I learned there are some gray areas and that you can't expect other people to live up to your standards, I have my standards for myself, but I cannot make my children, or my grandchildren or my neighbor live up to what are my standards.

What were some of the things you really stressed with your children?
I stressed with my children that especially when they were in high school and they were thinking about going to college and what career they wanted to do, as a part of their life I stressed to them to pick out a career to find something to do that would better the world but would also be something they enjoyed doing because they were going to be working for 40 or 50 years so they might as well be doing something they liked to do cause your going be going to work for a long time.

Did you find something that something for you or are you just now getting there?
Yes it kept changing though. Because when I married I thought I was going to be happy at home just taking care of the children, while they were young they were toddlers I could read to them, lay down for a nap whenever they laid down for a nap and read story books to them, play little games with them ring around the Rosie or whatever and that was a happy time. But then once they started going to school I started getting bored, and was like I gotta get out of this I can't stand these four walls 24 hours a day, so I started working part time just working the hours the children were in school. and that worked well till they were teenagers and by that time of course we had moved out to La Vernia we needed more income, the minimum wage law had just been passed and my boss at pilgrim cleaners cut back my hours because she did not want to pay overtime, so I had to look for a different job where I could make more per hour than the minimum wage. So that is when I went to the Lone Star Liquor Company. And once there I learned that I tend to be very detailed, because I was an inventory clerk I had to compare what the salesmen had written and as far as how much of an item he wanted to have delivered to this customer at what price and was that the going price that the company was selling it for that week or was the salesmen trying to give him a better deal, so I had to watch for all that type of thing. Again I enjoyed that for about five years but then i got bored and I asked my boss if I could move into the computer room and he said no I worked with people better than with computers. So he kept me in the front room where I was answering the phone talking to customers, talking to salesmen all day long.

And about what time frame was that?
That was 1975 to 1980.

And they had computers?
These big huge things, we had two in a room about the size of this living room, it was punch cards. So then in 1980 I got a job with USAA as a service representative. I think I started at about seven dollars an hour and it was more stressful than the type of job I had at Lone Star Company but there was also a chance of advancement and they encouraged us to go to school and learn more and I discovered I really loved to go to school and learn. So I took insurance courses at night and my husband, bless his heart, he wanted nothing more to go to school. I think that's why he discouraged me to go to college after I had graduated from high school because he had had enough of school, he did not want to learn, anything else and he did not understand why I wanted to. But this was almost 20 years later and I still had this this thirst for knowledge and so he agreed that I could go to school at night and he would pick me up after class, he classes were right there at USAA, so I could ride the van in and he could stay late at work and then about seven o'clock he could come pick me up from USAA and we could drive home together and so through his encouragement I did improve myself by taking classes at night in the insurance field and ten years later I did receive my CPCU designation, which is a charted property and casualty underwriting designation that you receive only through ten national examinations. And so this was equivalent to receiving a master's degree in insurance and I was very proud of that and Henry was very proud of me for obtaining that.

About how old were the kids around that time?
By the time that I received CPCU the children were ranging in age from 25-30. AT the time I went to USAA, they were 15-20. I was off on Fridays and they were all at school so I could come home and study all day on Friday on my day off and the house was quite and I had no one to bother me while I did my homework.

When do you think about the time corporate America started changing there was less loyalty to employers?
I saw that whenever my husband's company was sold or closed. He worked for Decker Foods on Roosevelt, from 1958 until 1991. At that time Decker Foods advised their employees that this plant was not making as much money as they needed it to make so they were closing it. They moved a few people to Dallas, where they had another plant. But most of the people were either let go or they were given a small severance package or as my husband had been there almost 25 years, I'm sorry almost 35 years. He was given a pension of 150 dollars a month. About seven years prior to that, Decker had already been bought up by Conagra from Armor And Company and he had a 150 dollar a month pension from that buy out. So in 1991 they retired him with a pension of 300 dollars a month, for a life time pension and at that time it seemed like quite a bit of money, but right now it wouldn't even buy the groceries for a month. After that he went to Carlton Foods in New Braunfuls and worked there about two or three years. And he tried to give them the same dedication that he had given Decker Foods, but they did not reciprocate. They did not show the same concern for their employees that Decker Foods had previously and he finally quit that job, left it to open his own mowing business. USAA at the time i started working there in 1980 was a place well known for taking good care of their employees. They had sick leave, they had paid vacation time and they started a 401k plan, whereby they matched up to 3% of what we put in saving and it was a very good place to work at the time. After General Mcdurmat left and General Harris came in, they became a little tighter; they became more concerned about making money for their members than they did about the welfare of the employees. However at the time that I was old enough to retire in the year 2000, I did have approximately a 100,000 dollars in my 401k plan; And I was very grateful to USAA for encouraging me to save so that I had that amount of money. Plus I was soon eligible for social security and the pension was approximately 1000 dollars a month plus they gave me health care benefits for myself and my husband. So because of the care that corporation took, we are able to retire in comfort, by no means in luxury but we are getting by and so i am appreciative to USAA for that. However since then I understand that as new C.E.O's have taken over that they are cutting retirement packages and health benefits and its going to be harder for the people that are retiring in the years to come if they don't manage somehow to put aside their own savings.

Did Grandpas job loss affect the home life at all?
Yes because at the time I was still working at USAA and he was brought up to be the breadwinner of the family and so it hurt his pride somewhat when he was laid off and all at once I was the main moneymaker of the family. Because Carlton's did not pay him near what Decker had paid him in the last years that he worked at Decker. But again because we love each other I assured him that we are a team and it doesn't matter who's bringing in a little bit more money than the other one, it goes into the same pot and we jointly pay the bills and were putting money aside for our eventual retirement. So it didn't matter which paycheck it came from.

Why is it that you are both semi-retired?
I think because we don't like to sit home and look at four walls all day. Henry grew up on a farm, and his ideal occupation would be to have a farm with cattle and crops, but in this day and time you would have to have thousands of acres and millions of dollars of equipment to make a living on a farm. So after 35 years of working in thirty, forty degree coolers, he loves being out in the heat and in the fresh air, and this is as close to a farm as he can get. When he is out there on his riding lawn mower or digging in his garden, planting tomatoes, picking okra, that just makes him happy to be out there because that was the way that he was raised and that's the gifts that god gave him was to be in touch with the land. He mows other people's yards, he raises a garden that he is proud of, and I happily help plant and take care of whatever vegetables or fruit that he brings in but you find me working in the dirt very much. I still enjoy talking with people working with people so I am very happy working for my nephew at a part time job where I am talking on the phone, I am running errands, I am doing some book work as a secretary. It has enough variety to keep me interested so I don't get too bored, if I get bored I play free cell on the computer, I love my laptop, and these little laptops are much nicer than those huge machines that we had at Lone Star.

What do you think life is gonna be like now that both of your parents have passed away? Was there a big shock when your father passed away or was it more heartbreaking when your mother did?
My father passed away suddenly he had had two strokes; he had suffered from congestive heart failure for a couple of years after his last stroke. I expected he was going to die soon and I had told my children be sure when you come out here (they lived next door at the time) be sure and go over and say hello to grandpa cause he's not going to be around much longer. He was going into the hospital about once a month to have the fluids drained from his lungs and the last time he was in the hospital I went with him to his doctor for a checkup and I asked the doctor why he couldn't do more to keep my father from returning to the hospital every few weeks and he told me that I need to face it that my father's body was wearing out. I was very angry at that doctor that day and I swore I would never go to him. He definitely did not have a good bedside manner. But I was still not fully prepared for my father to die as suddenly as he did; I was asked to go to college station to take care of my son Gary's children who were four years old and two years old at the time, while their mother went into the hospital to have their third child. They had no one in college station that could stay and run the household and take care of the children while my son was at work and Susan was in the hospital. And so I had arranged for two weeks of vacation, in the middle of July and so when I left I went to my parents house next door and told them goodbye and that I loved them and I'd be back in two weeks and my father said you do too much for your children and that's the last words he ever said to me. Because about ten days later he passed away suddenly from a heart attack.

I got a call from Daniel who was living with us at the time that my dad had passed away quite suddenly and so I got in my car and came home and then my mother and Jenean and together we went to finch funeral home and made the arrangements for his funeral . Roberta was in Colorado springs at the time working a catastrophe for the USAA claims department but still it came even though I knew he was dying that he was wearing that his body was wearing out as the doctor had said I had when I had told him goodbye I hadn't really expected him to be gone when I came back, I expected him to still be here. So that came somewhat as a shock and it took me several months to be able to talk about without crying that my father was gone.

Now with my mother she lived another sixteen years and we became close in those sixteen years, even though she lived with Roy during most of that time I still had to take over her finances, be sure they had a proper diet, that they got to the doctors and so on that they needed to go to and really became her caretaker so to speak.

The last three and a half years since she's been in the nursing home, I would see her once or twice a week. I really didn't go there daily, cause I knew that she was okay and that if there was any problem Roy let me know because he was there almost daily and I had seen her survive a broken hip, have a quadruple by-pass some seven years ago, a pace maker put in a year later and then the hip replacement surgery a couple years after that, about a year after the hip replacement surgery she went into the nursing home because she was having problems with the incontinence and Roy couldn't clean up after her, get her to the bath room in time and so on and so it was necessary for her to go into the nursing home and she enjoyed it there. She enjoyed the interaction with the other ladies, she could still leave to go to church, to go to her meetings in Seguin and she was really happy there. it came as somewhat of a shock two years ago whenever she had developed this congestive heart failure, we almost lost her then and she went through the rehab process and multiple doctor visits and so on; trying to keep her stable and as healthy as possible under those conditions and she really didn't take a turn for the worse until this last January, when suddenly we went to a care plan meeting and we found out she had lost seven pounds in the three months since the last care plan meeting and a week later she had an appointment set up with her kidney specialist and he told us at that time that her kidneys were operating at five percent of capacity and that she would only have two to six weeks to live. That came as a shock, Roberta was with me, it really drove home to both of us that we were about to lose our mother at last and so we started making plans.

She had gotten so weak that she really could not stand up any more. She had to be in the wheel chair where before the doctor had always encouraged that she should walk and keep her strength up. So we started taking turns going to the nursing home at meal time and feeding her because she had the familial tremor, which caused her hands to shake when she was trying to take food or liquid to her mouth and so we started feeding her and if we couldn't be there the nurses at the nurses at the nursing home would be sure that she ate that she had got some nutrition and a hospice was called in they were very helpful, put her on some medication so that she did not suffer from the ill effects of the uric acid coursing through her body, the kidneys were no longer able to cleanse her blood and so she had this acid running all over her body so if you just touched her it hurt, so with the medication they were able to give her it eased that pain to where we could still love her and touch her give her a hug without it hurting her.

She excepted after while he excepted that somebody was going to feed her and I know that was hard for her because she wanted to be independent as long as possible. However the medicine made her sleepy and she could no longer enjoy the bingo games after lunch, because she would go to sleep or lose her concentration not be able to play. So we Roberta and I and Roy gave her as much love as possible Rosemarie also whenever she was called upon and so we were preparing that yes we were going to lose her.

It seemed a little bit longer process perhaps than my father and I was there when she passed away. Her breathing was very shallow that morning and finally it just stopped she died very peacefully and yes I miss her, but she went very calmly it didn't hurt she wasn't in pain and they say that hearing is the last sense the last of your senses to go and she knew that I was with her. And so it's okay, I certainly have a lot of things to go through because she was a pack rat and I have a lot of things to go through and get rid of. I have already gone through about half of her clothing and I'm ready to give those away to a friend that works at a women's clinic where they can always use clothing. I have a lot of craft things to go through, I have a lot of stuffed animals to go through and in time I'll go through it and h say a final goodbye.

If you could say anything to either one of them now what would that be?
Probably that I've loved them, I always felt that they loved me, I never felt rejected or unloved, they were strict, we didn't grow up in a household where we hugged and kissed goodnight but yet I always felt loved and I thank them for that. For the character that they taught me, instilled good character traits to me in my faith in God.

Is there anything else that you would like to add to this interview?
Just that uh being a parent even though I didn't go to college, being a parent was my most important job and I loved every minute of it. Even when they got into trouble and I was screaming my head off because they wouldn't pay attention to me, I still loved them. I tried to be a good parent, Henry and I both did, it was a very important job god gave us and I have to admit that grandparents being a grandparent is a lot more fun than being a parent, you don't have as much responsibility and you can still have fun with the children and I thank god for my children and my grandchildren and my great grandchild.

 

Joseph Pais and Rose Mary Moczygemba taken during the interview on March 17, 2008

ANALYSIS

This Oral History Project has inspired me to ask questions no matter what the answer is; it has taught me that there is history to everything around me and that if you ask the right questions, you can get answers you never would have imagined. I think the most important things stated in this project are not only historical but biographical and from the heart. Rose Mary showed me some feelings and emotions that I have never seen her express and I am glad that I was the one she could share her story with. She took from place to place on a trip through history which is unimaginably spectacular and amazing. We went from Illinois country atmosphere, to the big city in St. Louis and down south to the heart and soul of Texas culture San Antonio. We Traveled From WWII, through the hip 70’s and all the way to present day. It was simply the best way to define history and show what it was like to live back in the “good ole days”.


Rather than the usual spoon fed history, know this fact know that date, it was more of a compelling atmosphere like when you tell stories at the camp fire. I learned various things I probably never would have learned about her without this project in place. For instance the story about her father’s death, sundown towns, my Grandpa’s job loss at Decker and the unwavering character my grandma has.


At first I had no clue on how to do this topic; I thought it would be just another grade for the grade book. But it turned into something much more and it was truly exciting to explore my grandmothers past through the looking glass in which is the Oral History Project. She expressed feelings in many different ways with usage of sarcasm, a very stern tone and also a happy one. She showed me what life was like for her and many others during this time period and how things have changed for the better and for the worse. I trust in every word my grandma has spoken on the time and not just because of my faith in her but also through stories my Grandpa and my Aunt Roberta have told me.


I truly believe this is the best way to look at history and the only drawbacks to a project like this is the length of time it takes to do it properly and just hoping that the person you are interviewing can still remember the things that happened to him or her in detail. I enjoyed every minute I put into creating this project and I hope to continue on and move forward and interview my Grandpa so I can see his perspective on the time as well as get know him better like I got to know my Grandma.

 

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ANNOTATED BIBLIOGRAPHY

List a minimum of SEVEN sources. There must be links to each of the sources within the transcription.
Here are three examples of annotated sources plus a source for photos/documents.

The Handbook of Texas Online is a multidisciplinary encyclopedia of Texas history, geography, and culture sponsored by the Texas State Historical Association and the General Libraries at UT-Austin. It was produced in partnership with the College of Liberal Arts and the General Libraries at the University of Texas at Austin. Copyright © The Texas State Historical Association.

The Washington Post This shows an article on sun down towns.

National Building Museum has an article on the beginnings of Kress and its architecture.

Catholic Dossier MagazineIs an article on Vatican II.

Cost-of-Living Calculator. The calculator uses the Consumer Price Index to do the conversions between 1913 and the present. The source for the data is the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The Consumer Price Index reflects the cost of items relative to a specific year. The American Institute for Economic Research. P.O. Box 1000. Great Barrington, Massachusetts. 01230.

Bizjournals is an article about the closure of Decker foods in San Antonio, Texas by bizjournals.com

Small Town Texas Projects. Palo Alto College student/s Amber M. Middleton project on the town of La Vernia, Texas. This Small Town Project was completed in the Fall semester of 2000 as a requirement for Assistant Professor of Robert Hines's History 1302 class.

Photographs and/or documents on this website were provided by Roselyn Greaves and Rose Mary Moczygemba.Photos were found in Rose Mary Moczygemba's and Roselyn Greaves's photo albums. Photographers are either Tom Messner, Roselyn Greaves and or Rose Mary Moczygemba.

 

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