Gary Lance Young

Gary Lance Young little league picture in front of mom's car in 1957

San Antonio, Texas

October 30, 2007

Rachel Young

Palo Alto College

History 1302 - Fall 2007

INTRODUCTION
TRANSCRIPTION
ANALYSIS
TIMELINE
BIBLIOGRAPHY

 

INTRODUCTION

Gary Lance Young was born on November 19, 1947 in Memphis Tennessee. His parents were Mary Sue Cash and Buron Patrick Young. He is the oldest of 3 children. He has a younger sister named Sandra Sue Young and brother named Ivan Buron Young.
He was raised in Tennessee till he was four years old when his family moved to California. He lived in the Los Angeles area and also in Orange County, California. When he was 17 his family moved to Batesville, Arkansas. At 17 he joined the Air Force and came to San Antonio, Texas and has continued residing here till present., He is a graduate of Southwest Texas University with a Bachelors degree in Business Administration. He married Maria De Jesus Ovalle on March 31,1966. He has three children, Theodore Young, Jason Young, and Rachel Young. Gary Young is my father. This interview took place in my kitchen on Tuesday afternoon. The recorded interview was about an hour and 10 minutes.

 

 

 

 

TRANSCRIPTION

What are your earliest childhood memories?
My earliest memory was moving from
Memphis, Tennessee to California, and I remember when we moved we had to leave my dog behind and I was four years old. We moved in an old car it was a like maybe a 1938 Chrysler and my sister was a baby, only about one year old and she was in the seat next to me. I remember traveling the old roads, there was no interstate and the scariest thing was when my dad drove over the mountains into California because the roads where very narrow and the edges where very crumbly with rock slides and the car was very close to the edge and I thought it might fall off. And that is my earliest memory.

Buron Patrick Young, Gary Lance Young, and Sandra Sue Young by their 1938 Chrysler in 1951 leaving for California

What was it like growing up in the 50's in California?
It was very nice. I remember starting kindergarten and first grade in California. We lived close to the beach and I liked that. The weather was very nice it didn't get hot it didn't get cold. I didn't like to be carried or driven to school I always preferred to walk even in the rain. I asked my mother to buy me a rain coat. Always just wanted to take myself to school and I liked it.

Buron Patrick Young, Gary Lance Young, and Sandra Sue Young by car after blowout in desert in California date unknown

Where in California did you live?
We lived in the Los Angeles area. The first house was in kind of ..uh in south central Los Angeles and that wasn't close to the beach in a suburb called South Gate and then from there my parents moved to Manhattan Beach and that where I started school in 1953 and that's where I remember being close to the beach. We stayed there until my dad bought his first house in Torrance California. And I think that was in 1955.

Gary Lance Young and Sandra Sue Young in front of home in Torrance, California in 1955

What is it like growing up in the 50's?
It was ..when I got old enough to realize it was the 50's it was nice. I was in… I liked it…I was in the 3rd grade, I mean I remember all the grades 1st and 2nd and 3rd grade and what I remember the most is that I had a 3rd grade teacher who was very good at explaining history…we studied the Mexican history and we had a party at school with piñatas and made little miniature adobe houses and we studied the Hawaiian culture and we made a little grass hut inside the school room and had a luau and we brought pineapple and coconuts and made homemade ice cream. In 6th grade I got interested in the music and that's just when the rock and roll was coming out and I remember hearing like Rock around the clock was probably the first song I remember hearing and this was in like 1955 1956 and then Elvis Presley became famous and I remember seeing him on TV when he appeared on the Ed Sullivan show and sang Hound dog and so I really liked growing up in the 50's there and I started listening to rock and roll and l liked it a lot. Of course it kept on getting more and more popular and being in California it seemed like everything that was popular always started there first.

Gary Lance Young's school picture date unknown

Do you remember the Cold War?
Oh ya the Cold War was …well I guess it was scary for the adults. In the 7th and 8th grade during that time I mean all that period was the Cold War. But what I remember about it was everybody was scared of being bombed. The Atom Bomb and that somebody like Russia which I guess was considered to be our biggest enemy would somehow make a sneak attack and bomb us. So at school we would have drills, Atomic Bomb Drills. Every time they would ring the bell a certain way we all had to get under our desks and cover our heads and not look towards the windows because there was a lot of glass on the windows. That was going to protect us from the Atom Bomb. Now of course we know that it would not have done any good at all but that's what they had us do and we did those pretty regularly. And at that time from the military bases that where in California there were a couple of bases out in the desert where jets would fly, where they tested the first rocket plane. The X 15 would regularly fly over what they call the bay area in Los Angeles, and all the cites close to the ocean and you would hear the sonic boom. Now a days it's against the law for jets to make a sonic boom. The sonic boom is caused when the sound barrier is broken, but they were always breaking the sound barrier when we were in school in the 7th and 8th grade. And when it happens I mean, I don't think many people have heard that but it's really loud and all the walls vibrate and the windows shake and you think they are going to brake. And they are sudden you don't hear anything coming until you hear this huge boom. Part of the Cold War included the Cuban Missile crisis and that happened when I was in the 8th grade, I can remember that day specifically and all us kids on the playground where just joking around about it because President Kennedy was president at that time and he had told President Khrushchev of Russia that they had to take the missiles out of Cuba or risk going to war with the United States. We knew there was a naval blockade preventing supply ships from getting to Cuba and they had the satellite pictures to prove the missiles where there. Of course that was a very scary time for adults but for us kids we just joked around about it.

Do you remember your mom and dad being scared?
No I don't remember my mom and dad being scared but I think they were probably worried. As far as us kids were concerned we weren't worried at all. The big thing back then was selling bomb shelters. And this was as early as I could remember like in the 6th grade these companies would come and build you a shelter in your back yard. We didn't have one but I know my dad thought about getting one, I think it was probably too expensive. What they did was just come and dig a hole in your back yard and lined it with concrete blocks and but dirt over it and an air vent and put a little closet in there with bunk beds. They used to advertise them on T.V. and you would have like 30 days worth of groceries and incase there was an atomic bomb you would be or they said you would be safe and have food to live off of for 30 days, I don't know what happens after that but a lot of people bought them. A lot of the houses in California still have a lot of those shelters in their backyards.

What did your mom and dad do for a living?
Well my mom was just a housewife. She never worked she just stayed at home and took care of her children, me and my sister and later on my brother. My father when he first went to California..before he left Tennessee and I know he worked as a Policeman, as a highway patrolman and as a bus driver for the Greyhound company in Tennessee but when he went to California he changed completely and he went to work in the air plane factories. I know at one time for Hughes, Howard Hughes Aircraft. He also worked for Douglass Aircraft and of course they are all still around they are still companies. He got into what they call the tool and dye business and what that is is the parts that are used to hold the airplanes up while you're building it like the wings and fuel and the tail and he did that kind of work.

 Mary Sue Young, Buron Patrick Young, and Gary Lance Young in 1949

What did you do for fun when you where little?
I did a lot of things. In California when I was too young to go by myself my mother used to take us to the beach and I really liked to that except that I was so fair skinned I usually got a sunburn pretty bad and so did my sister and that wasn't any fun but we still liked to go nevertheless. As I got older there was a swimming pool in the city that we lived in, in Torrance and we would ride our bicycles to go to that swimming pool and we always did that a lot during the summer. I really liked playing baseball I started playing when I was like only years old in the little leagues. I was pretty good and even though I was only 8 they put me on the major league team rather than the minors. But I didn't really like it because I was the youngest one and though I played pretty could they would only let me play as a substitute and not play every game. I stayed playing little league for four years until I was about 12. Then as I got older 11 or 12 of course I got to play every game and I did well. I played the all star team in the outfield, my best positions where in center and left field. I played center field more often because I was a pretty fast runner and had good eye coordination and didn't drop the ball. Did a lot of that. I used to like to bowl. I used to make extra money working in the bowling alley before they had electronic scoring. They had the adult leagues and they would hire you to keep score for a team and they paid about 25 cents a person and there where 10 people, 5 on each team, so you could make about 2.50 a night keeping score for the leagues plus if they wanted to buy you any cokes or anything or give you a tip later so you could walk away maybe with 3 bucks and that was considered pretty good money. That was around 1958 and 1959. I liked to bowl myself, they had a junior league and I was good and I bowled quite a few 200 games. Which is a good score in bowling and my average was up around 150 160 and I was only like 13 years old.

Gary Lance Young little league picture in front of mom's car in 1957

When did you start going to high school?
I started going to High School in California 1961, we were living in Torrance, and I went to South Torrance High School. It was right on the Pacific Coast highway, again within walking distance to the beach. I was on the track the team and if fact my coach didn't make us have our workouts on the school grounds since I ran on the cross country team which is about a two mile race and for all the runners he would have us jog to the beach was about 5 miles away and the beach we went to was Redondo Beach and the sand on the Pacific ocean in California was pretty deep so we didn't consider that to be any fun at all because to work out in the deep sand trying to run was pretty hard. So running on that beach in deep sand and up cliffs it made you feel like your legs were on fire so telling us we were running to the beach was no fun, it was like agony.

Gary Lance Young's freshman ID card in 1961-1962 from South High School

What was high school like, like the people and so forth?
It was pretty good. The high school was big there like cities, my high school had a total population of about 3 or 4000 kids, so there was no way you know everybody, you knew the people from your neighborhood and it was pretty much the way school are now you go and sign up for courses and you got your locker and books. They had a pretty good school system, they had all the sports that you wanted to participate in they had tennis courts, and swimming pools and basketball courts and really nice stadiums. California just had a good school system. I learned to drive and took my driver's education in high school before I turned 16 and they teach you how to drive on the freeways, that's where you learned which was good training because it's so dangerous on the highways over there it's the only way you will survive. I was also a pole vaulter in High school. Me and my friends had taught over selves to pole vault at home using old bamboo poles that we got from the carpet store. We would throw ourselves over a chain link fence, and there is no return with that either you make it or you crash and fall back to the other side so it was either do it or don't do it with our training so we got pretty good where we could always do it. So when we got to high school and they asked us if we could do it in a sand pit and break away bar with a fiberglass pole it was a piece of cake so we all made the pole vault team. They also put us on the wrestling team. My worst experience on the wrestling team was when I made the mistake of thinking was pretty tough in the 10th grade and had a match with this little 98 pound guy and I was 140lbs so I thought I had him beat….turns out he was the California State champion and he had me pinned down in about 5 minutes till I couldn't move. Taught me a lesson don't underestimate the other guy just because he is smaller than you (laughs) that was kinda neat.

What kind of people did you hang out with?
Well I was athletic but I wasn't a hard core jock. They types of people in school where fairly diverse. There weren't a lot of African Americans but there were lots of Hispanics and Anglos and Asians, but primarily Anglo and Hispanic people. Everyone pretty much got along pretty good. The two distinct groups a guess at that time where they called them and I don't know where they came up with this name but it reminds me of the old Grease movies with John Travolta….if you wore your jeans pretty creased and pretty tight you wore grease in your hair and combed it back they called you a Hodaddy for some reason and ho in those days doesn't mean what it does now but you were called a hodaddy or hodad and that was the group you hung out in. The other distinctly different group was the surfers. They hung out at the beach and did a lot of surfing. These guys didn't wear their hair extremely long because this is the time before the Beetles so long hair wasn't in yet. So long side burns and maybe hair on you collar was as long as it goes. Surfers didn't use any grease on their hair they bleached it if it wasn't blonde to begin with. They all had tans and they COULD SURF and surfing was starting to get really popular at the time. They would have championships, the biggest one was at Huntington Beach in California and I didn't live far from their either. As far as me personally I was independent I would switch back and forth between the two groups. At one time I had the tight levis and the leather jacket with greasy hair and another time I moved to another school so I changed my persona, I bleached my hair and bought me a surf board and the only thing that disappointed me is again I'm so fair skinned I couldn't get a tan at the beach. I either get burned or not burned no in between. I liked surfing and I did it a lot. All together I had friends though in both groups. Before I left California I worked as a magazine salesman and made enough money to buy a motorcycle and I did that because I couldn't get my license till I was 16 but I could get a motorcycle license at 15 and a half so that's why I bought the motorcycle. I drove that thing all over the place, in the mountains and it was great fun. I never wore a helmet or any protective gear and I had some close calls for accidents' and I was lucky I didn't get killed. Coming down the mountains, scraping the sides of the motorcycle when you lean over into the turns doing 60 mph, is great fun as a kid, but now that I think about it that was pretty damn dangerous.

Gary Lance Young and Ivan Buron Young on Gary's motorcycle in 1963

When did you leave California was grade where you in?
I left California when I was a senior in high school. I got pretty upset about it because I was at a different high school than South Torrance. I was at Westminster High School in Orange County close to Huntington Beach and I really like it there. It was at this school when I remember President Kennedy being shot and I was in my English class, at the time they said he was still alive but I remember by the time I had drafting class the period before lunch they told us he had passed away. I remember being very sad and all the girls crying, sad day everyone seemed to really love President Kennedy. Anyway I really like school at Westminster I had been there for 11th and some of the 12th grade, so I didn't want to move at all much less to Arkansas. In October my father decided he was going to move the family to Arkansas. That upset me but I again what could I do so I helped get everything ready, pack up the house load up the truck and he moved himself with a trailer and a pickup truck and we moved to Arkansas. And that was a real experience because it was like culture shock. I mean here I was used to being a greaser or a hodad and a surfer and hanging around with a lot of the Hispanic kids who used to call me the white bean, so going to Arkansas I considered all of them to be farmers (laughs). So when I got their it was a whole different world. I went from a school that had about 4000 kids to a school with about 400 kids grade 9-12. My graduating class in California had over 1000 and this one barely had over 100 much less 1000. The first day of school I had my parents drop me off and registered myself and in fact I may have just hitchhiked to school that first day because I didn't like my parents to drop me off. I went into the principal's office and registered and he laid out my choice for classes, and he asked well what where you taking in California. And I said I was in a blue collar curriculum like in drafting, auto shop, and metal shop. Well he said we don't have any of that here. So I said ok what do you got? He told me we got chemistry, agri, or home economics. So I knew what chemistry was and I knew what Home ec was so I asked him What the heck is agri? And he says well that's agriculture. Well I said I don't want to grow any pigs or anything , and I hate chemistry I know I don't want to be touching anything I don't know what it is, so put me in home ec. Well he got mad and told me I couldn't be in home ec that it was only for girls. And I says you said there was home ec, chemistry, or agri ….so I'm saying put me in home ec I don't care if it's all girls…if I got to make a dress I can make a dress if I have too…of course I was just beings a smart a** and he knew it so he put me in freshman civics so I could be embarrassed because I would be the only senior in the class. So I told him that was fine by me because I wouldn't be around a pig or in chemistry. So he put me in freshman civics and it worked out just fine and I kinda got to liking it there in Arkansas. I started hanging out with what they called the rowdy bunch. They didn't have hodads but I guess they had the well behaved kids or the rowdy kids and I preferred to hang out with the rowdy kids and we had a lot of fun. I enjoyed that last year there eventually. I even surprised myself. The little town was located on a river in North Central Arkansas, name of the town was Batesville which I thought was the most ridicules country name for a town I ever heard. Of all the places to wind up I ended up in Batesville Arkansas. But anyways it wasn't that bad it was one the White River, and the river created a sand bar so it was like their own personal beech. That's where all the kids hung out and I went along with 'em. Great place for fun. Enjoyed it to the point that I graduated on May the 25th and left town on the 26th to join the Air Force. I left and never been back since and its 2007. (laughs)

Gary Lance Young in High School Graduation Picture in 1965

How was life different in Arkansas compared to California?
Well like I said it was very different. The schools didn't have the budget to offer the same things like they had in California. They did just a good job teaching though as they did in Californian with what they had though. The only thing I noticed in Arkansas was that there was A LOT MORE prejudice. The school was segregated it was Anglo only. The African Americans had a totally different school somewhere else. I'm not even sure where it was I just know they weren't allowed to go to school with us. I don't think they had ever even seen a Hispanic person before or an Asian unless they had been on vacation somewhere. It wasn't like we see today where there are a lot minorities working in small rural towns and this was basically a small primarily rural community. I guess because there were not a lot of minorities other than African Americans the Anglos really discriminated against them and amongst themselves. They based it on the side of town you lived on and this town like a lot of towns was divided by a bayou and a railroad track and depending on which side of the track or the bayou you lived on determined what class or group of people you belonged too. The so called snobs or upper class depending on how much money their parents had or how big their house was, or how many cars they had the tended to group together in school and look down on the other group of Anglos that came from the other side of town who had maybe a much smaller house and maybe only one car for the entire family to use and where I was livin' happened to be the side of the have nots so not many people from the nice side wanted to associate with me. My only claim to fame was that I was that kid from California and then to make it worse I used to like to walk around town barefooted which just was not done in this little town and skateboarding was just getting popular so I took great fun …oh yeah and I also bleached my hair just to stand out…but I took great fun in getting the attention by skateboarding barefoot down the main street of this little town just to watch all the locals look and gawk and say "what the hell is that?" (laughing). That was fun It was my claim to fame in town.

Gary Lance Young with his car barefoot in 1965 in Batesville Arkansas

Did you yourself experience or ever witness issues concerning racism in this little southern town?
Um, no the only thing I came close to with an issue is…because like I said this little town was segregated so I can't remember ever even knowing anyone may age who was African American in Arkansas. The only time I ever came close was like I told ya I used to hitchhike to school for the first few months for the last few months my dad let me take his car to school but I didn't want to ride the bus with a bunch of farmer with a bunch of cow caca on their boots …I'm sure that wasn't true but that was my smart ass answer to not riding the bus. I was the cool kid from the big city there was no reason I couldn't hitchhike a couple miles to school. As luck would have it not very many people would stop to pick me up except this old guy who happened to be African American and he and I became great friends and he was an older man he wasn't a young guy and he was on his way to work, must been about 40 or 45 years old. I don't know what kind of job he did but he had an old ratty car and he was African American but I had no problem with it I thought he was great guy and he probably got just as much enjoyment as I did when he dropped me off at my segregated school every day with everyone staring. It created just as much attention as my bleached blond hair. I did that for a while and I guess that was about the only racial issue I ever had. I'm sure they talked about it behind my back but no one ever said anything to my face and certainly nobody ever bothered him.

Do you remember the civil rights movement while you were in school? Like them talking about integrating the schools or anything?
Well in California schools were already integrated it wasn't talked about there. If you lived in the district you went to the school. Everybody got along. In Arkansas if they tried to integrate it would have been a huge problem but they never did while I was in school. I didn't hear about the civil rights movement until after I graduated and was in the military. Of course the military was integrated already and I had quite a few military African American friends and I remember being on duty the night they assassinated Martin Luther King. The only negative experience I ever had was the day I joined the Air Force and I was in downtown Little Rock at the recruiting station and there were a few African American guys there enlisting as well. So I made friends with a couple of em and their where some other white guys there, so about 4 or 5 of us all together went out to lunch while they were processing our paper work before we got on our plane to go to San Antonio for our basic training. So we had a couple of hours to kill so we went to a pool hall to shoot some pool and we were there for about an hour and we didn't pay much attention to anything going on but then the owner came up to us and said you white guys are welcome to stay here and play but you blacks have got to leave this is a segregated business. And I thought that was pretty insulting and I said well if they gotta leave I'm gonna leave too and the other Anglo guys felt the same why I did so we all left. It didn't get ugly or a fight or anything but that was just the way it was, it was 1965 in downtown Little Rock. So umm ya we got kicked out of the pool hall just because our friends were black and I thought that was pretty disgusting.

Why did you decide to join the Air Force?
I joined the Air Force the day after I graduated from high school because I was ready to leave town (laughs). I didn't want to stay there. It got to the point where I was a very independent person even though I was only 17 and where you're a person like that you want to do things your own way and my father was also a independent person and he wanted things his way and it got to where we weren't getting along that well and so in addition to leaving town I thought it was a good time to leave home as well. I was old enough to take care of myself. My dad understood that so there was no animosity he signed the papers for me to be able to go. I left on good terms. My dad had always told Great War stories about World War II and he liked the military so I figured I would too. I came within an inch of joining the army but the Air Force recruiter sucker punched me into it better. This was the time when Vietnam was beginning to become an issue and escalating by President Johnson at the time but it still had a long ways to go before it got as serious as it did. That wasn't the reason I joined but I was prepared to go there if they were to send me I didn't see that I as being a big deal at all.

Did you like being in the military?
Well no , not really I mean again for somebody I can't believe I had been so naïve for wanting to be independent and all that to go and join the military, into an environment where every decision is made for you. It was a kind of a shock and did require some adjustment. So no I didn't really like it but I adjusted and I did my duty and did everything they told me to do good and I got promoted and worked my way up. So again you learn from everything and I learned from that just like everything else but when it came time for me to get out I felt just the same was when I came in time to go and I went and I left.

What did you do in the Air Force?
Again when I went in the promise you different things and give you a battery of different tests. During training I did pretty well and they made me a squad leader and when they took me to the qualification range on weapons I was naturally a pretty good shot so I got 60 bulls eyes out of 60 shots with the old M-1 Rifle which was the old weapon they used during World War II and the Korean War and then they were getting the new M 16's which I thought looked like Mattel toys and they told me I want you to shoot with this too. So they let me qualify with that too, which was a lot easier to control than that M-1, as far as shooting and aiming it. The M-16 was a fantastic rifle, but I aced that too and scored another 60 out of 60 bulls eyes and that got me a special recognition for being an expert marks man. So when I picked a specialty I wanted originally to be an airborne radio operator, but they offered this other duty in the languages department so I did that instead. I did it basically because where I was gonna work there were a lot of pretty Hispanic civilian girls working there….so I said ILL TAKE IT…turns out it wasn't that fun but I got stationed here in San Antonio and didn't leave. So I did that for two years. Then Vietnam started getting really bad and I friend of mine went over there and came back and told me about it. He told me it was just as boring there as it was on the base we were on, the only ones who were getting a lot of action where the army grunts and the marines who were having to walk around the bush in Vietnam. All the people in the Air Force were hanging out in the bases, the bases where coming under mortar fire but that was no big deal to him and if you wanted to be extra careful you would dig a hole underneath your bunker to be safe…which he did. Well that didn't sound all that appealing to me. So I knew a guy in assignments and he told me after 2 years they start considering were to send you, and by that time I had gotten married so I really wasn't in the mood to get send anywhere. So went I found out my number had come up for 18 month assignment in Greenland ,which aint green at all, I didn't want to go there. So they were taking volunteer assignments if you can qualify but it was very tough to get in but they needed people. So I could either be a survival instructor out in the desert in Nevada or be a Basic Training instructor her at Lackland AFB. I went for the basic training position even though they tried to tell me I would never get it because they only give that to the lifers on their second enlistment or higher. I put in my application and they took it and again I was a good soldier, I looked good in my uniform, well conditioned and I knew all the military rules and all that so they started interviewing me from the sergeant level all the way up to the colonel and they finally said there's nothing wrong with this guy he will make a good instructor. So they gave me the assignment so I had to go through 2 or 3 months of instructor training to see if I could make the cut or not and not only did I make it I received the honored graduate certificate and put all the old instructors to shame. I even got called out by the commanding general of the base at that time who awarded that award and got my smoky the bear hat and all the nine yards and made the record for the youngest basic training instructor the Air Force had ever graduated, I dunno if that record is still there or not but I did it.

Gary Lance Young with wife Maria De Jesus Young and children Teddy and Jason Young at Mission Espada in San Antonio, TX date unknown

How old were you?
I was 20 years old. The only problem I had after I became an instructor was that was too tough for their standards. They told me the Air Force didn't need to be as tough as I wanted them to be (laughs). So I really enjoyed that assignment and I liked training the troops. My squadrons won awards. It turned out pretty good for me. Plus if you were an instructor on the base you were pretty much king of the base so you did whatever you wanted to do when you wanted and that was great by me. AND the best part was when It came to food in the mess hall, and the food was pretty good in the mess hall at Lackland, you got the best of whatever they had . Every Friday I got as much scallops and jumbo shrimp as I could eat and it only cost me off base rations which was 65 cents. So I was king of base and that's how I spent my last two years in the Air Force. They assumed I was going to reenlist and offered me and 8,000 dollar bonus which was 3 years of pay right there but I didn't want to enlisted I wanted to be an officer. They said they would put me In a program that would send me to college then I could become an officer but they couldn't guarantee it so I said NO WAY and left the 8,000 dollar bonus to get out and work at the tire shop for a dollar and a quarter an hour………which makes me question my brilliance.(laughing)

Gary Lance Young in uniform in front of his base housing at Lackland AFB in 1967
Discharge orders

When you were a drill sergeant where you training people that were going to Vietnam?
Well most of the people coming into the Air Force were coming in to escape Vietnam, because most of the people going to Vietnam were being drafted into the army and so the people who wanted less because it was a sure bet if you went into the army just like now you will go to Iraq that you were gonna go to Vietnam. So it was like drawing a target on your butt after you got drafted into the army and wait for someone to shoot it in Vietnam. So most people joining the Air Force didn't want to go that route except for those blood and guts kind of guys who went on into the army and marines willingly. So all the rest who wanted to escape the draft came into the Air Force. Even the ones graduating from college were coming in as enlisted men and so to answer your question were most going to Vietnam…NO unless they had some very specialized training were they worked with the army in a unit called Combat Control units which were really doing more of the covert operations in Cambodia and Laos where nobody was suppose to be. Everyone else in the Air Force if they went to Vietnam generally went to the bases if they were support personal. Like maintenance on planes and stuff. Now the Air Force Pilots flying combat missions over north Vietnam, now those guys were the ones who were subjected to the most dangerous parts of being in combat because north Vietnam had missiles and most of those kept in the POW camps where Navy and Air Force Pilots.

Well that's all my questions is there anything else you would like to add to this interview that you haven't mentioned?
No…..I can't think of anything else.

 

 

Gary Lance Young and Rachel Young in recent photo 2007 in the kitchen

ANALYSIS

I learned a lot of interesting things about my dad and what he was like as a young man. I never knew that he had gone to a segregated school or all the things he was involved in while in high school. I am glad i got the opportunity to do this with him, I feel like i got to know him better because of this interview. I am very glad I have something like this to be able to keep forever and be able to show it to my family for years to come. I really enjoyed seeing all the photographs he had and hearing about how life was during the era he grew up in. I'm glad I got to do this because without this project I wouldn't have known any of these things about him, and now I have it recorded forever. It was very interesting to hear history from the point of view of somebody that really lived it rather than just reading it inside a book. I had a lot of fun doing this and also my Dad felt very special that I decided to interview him and I'm glad I was able to do it. I had a lot of fun doing this project and would do it again for all my family members if I could.

 

 

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