Maria Isabel Ponce (nee Gonzales)

Maria Isabel Ponce (nee Gonzales)

San Antonio, Texas

October 29, 2003

Denise Robles

Palo Alto College

History 1302 - Fall 2003

 

About Maria

Maria Isabel Ponce (nee Gonzales) is not a movie star, singer, or anyone famous, but she is my grandma! She was born December 14, 1943 to Alfonso and Isabel Gonzales. She is the middle child of 11 other brothers and sisters. Maria was born and raised here in San Antonio's west side near the Guadalupe Cultural Arts Center. She didn't go to high school, but dropped out in the ninth grade when she was attending Cooper Junior High. She was never able to go back. She tried but felt it was too hard. She had to drop out because she had to make breakfast, lunch, and dinner for her siblings.

Maria was married June 21, 1961 to George Mendoza Ponce. She was 17 and pregnant when the court gave her a marriage license. She had six more children after that. She says it wasn't hard. Her husband was always working to support the family.

Maria was never allowed to work, her husband wouldn't let her. Her job was to stay home and do all the household chores while raising her family. She didn't mind though, because she was taught that the man was in charge. He was to work while she took care of the kids. She couldn't go out, and she even had to have her husband's clothes ready so he could go out on Friday night.

My grandma never learned to drive either. She says she never learned because her husband didn't want her to. He felt that she would leave and go where she couldn't be found. This is the reason I chose my grandma for this interview. She was raised in a time when the man was really the man of the house. He was the boss and the woman had to listen. So my topic is the role of women and seeing how much it has changed. This interview was taken Wednesday, October 29, 2003 at my grandma's house on 8634 Garden Brook here in San Antonio, Texas.

My grandparents- Maria and George Ponce- 2003

What She Said

What did your mom do?
Nothing. Nothing? Haha! Homemaker, I guess.

Did she work?
Nope. No mas hay estaba. She never worked.

Who worked? Your dad?
My dad.

Do you know anybody whose parents did the opposite? (Like their mom worked and dad stayed home with the kids?
Yeah, I knew a couple. My neighbors.

But not a lot, huh? Most of the men worked while the women stayed home?
Yeah, just my neighbor. She worked while he stayed home, and she had him doing all the house work.

What high school did you go to, grandma?
None.

Why didn't you finish school?
Because I didn't want to go to school, and dropped out. I just didn't want to go.

What was the last grade you finished?
Ninth. I didn't finish it, I dropped out.

From what school?
Cooper Junior High.

Did it matter that you didn't finish? Did your parents tell you anything or no?
Nope, pero hijo man I had to do all the work.

Taking care of your brothers and sisters?
Yup. Feeding them in the morning. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Jeez! For about 10 people.

Was it normal for a woman to have a lot of kids back then?
Back then, yes.

This is a picture of my grandma and my pregnant mom {I think that's me in there}

Was there really birth control back then?
Yes, there was. Some kind.

But a lot of people didn't use it? Did they believe in it?
No not much, I guess, because everybody had a lot of kids.

How did you meet grandpa?
At a party. Era un quincenera, debut.

Were his parents the same as yours?
Yes, my father-in-law worked while my mother-in-law stayed home.

What did grandpa do?
Grandpa? You mean my husband?

Yeah.
Construction-laborer. He was a laborer.

Did he let you work?
Nope.

Did you care that you didn't work?
Nah.

How did your mom teach you to be?

Stay home, and we all had chores to do-cooking, cleaning.

Did you raise your kids that way


Yes.

Here is a picture of my mom, grandma, and uncle George

How different is it now than it was back then?
The kids don't do nothing, um it's very rare to find anybody whose kids do anything in the house.

Does it bother you how much things have changed?
No.

Would you rather it be the way it was before?
YES! Now you can't even walk down the street.

What do you think is the biggest change

You mean from now and then? The way the children are raised and disciplined, and now men and women are fifty/fifty. Before the man was the boss.

Here is a recent picture of my grandma and her siblings.  My grandma is on the right side in a blue shirt.

What I learned

Through this interview I learned how different it was for a woman back then. It wasn't like it is now. The man was really the boss. I learned a lot about my grandma that I hadn't known before. I never knew she went through so much. I also didn't know how my grandpa treated her before he became a Christian. I loved doing this interview. It made me ask questions I never would've asked. I've always known that women had to struggle to get where they are today. I just didn't realize that my grandma had to go through a lot of this on her own. I am glad that I wasn't born into a society who believes women were inferior to men. (Although some people still think that way.) There are benefits and drawbacks of learning about the past through interviews. Some benefits include seeing it through someone else's eyes, and hearing about it, which makes it seem like you are actually there. Some drawbacks include not knowing all the facts and just hearing opinions. Overall, I think this is an effective way of learning about the past. I still think you need your books for historical reasons though. I think it is important to learn about the past through someone else because then you can see how it was like for them. I also think you still need the facts though.

Here is a picture of me (when I was little), my grandpa, my grandma, and my cousins at a wedding. (Start in back row left to right)

ANNOTATED BIBLIOGRAPHY

Guadalupe Cultural Arts Center This web site talks about the cultural arts center my grandma lived by.

Role of womenThis web site talks about the changing role of women in history.

Birth control This web site gives you the history of the whole birth control movement.

Quincenera This web site gives a brief description of a quincenera.

This is a picture of my grandma (in pink dress) with her daughter and new in-laws at my aunt Lupe's wedding about a year ago.

 

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