Alice Louise Spicer (nee Watson)

My life's blessing given by God

Alice Louise Spicer High Scool graduation 1949

Grapevine, Texas

March 20, 2010

Gregory M. Spicer II

Palo Alto College

History 1302 - Spring 2010

 

INTRODUCTION
TRANSCRIPTION
ANALYSIS
TIMELINE
BIBLIOGRAPHY

 

INTRODUCTION

This is a view of Bar Harbor, Maine in the 1930s. This is the hospital that Alice and her siblings were born at.

Alice Louise Watson was born on December 8, 1929 in Bar Harbor, Maine at Mt. Desert Island Hospital to parents Gorge and Mary Watson. Alice lived in a one room shack located on the outskirts of Bar Harbor, and she considered her family to be very poor. Growing up during part of the Great Depression was very hard trial for her and her family. She attended Bar Harbor High School was part of the chorus and although she struggled through school, she graduated in 1949. During that time, at age eighteen, she was adopted by the Lymburners but she had lived with them from the time she was in the 7th grade due to an unfortunate predicament with one of her male siblings. She has been married twice in her lifetime: first to my father's father Michael Suluke and then to my grandfather Donald Arthur Spicer. She has six children, twelve grandchildren, and seven great-grandchildren. When she was young, she held jobs like picking blueberries to sell, baby sitting, and serving as housekeeper for people who kindly asked her, and she received very little to no money for her work. Later on in life, she she became a military wife and worked as a daycare giver for about 10 years in the early 1980s. She is a devoted Baptist, and her political views are Republican based. Her hobbies include putting puzzles together, playing solitaire, traveling, watching television, watching movies and watching all major sports teams within Texas on television or at their respective stadiums. As for NBA basketball in Texas, she "LOVES her Spurs." Alice Louise Watson is my grandmother.

Group photo of the Bar Harbor High School chorus in 1949 Alice's yearbook photo in 1949

 

 

TRANSCRIPTION

Alice at age 7 months

How did you and your family handle the ordeals of The Great Depression?
Video Answer We were very poor and food for meals was scarce, especially meat. We grew our own vegetables in the back yard and had almost nothing but rice and beans.

What types of jobs did your parents have during that time?
Video Answer My mother was a housewife and my father was employed by the town. He worked on all sorts of jobs the town needed done for it, such as fixing roads, mowing public yards, and other things laborous.

Did your father have long hours he had to work?
Video Answer My father would have to get up before dawn because we lived outside of town; therefore, he had to drive into town to get to work, and generally, he would not return home till around suppertime which was around six or seven o'clock. He worked six days out of the week and only had Sundays off. Also he had to work before getting to work during Wintertime seeing as the snow almost would reach about halfway up the houses sides.

What kind of working conditions did your father have to endure?
Video Answer He had to endure all sorts of conditions from weather to physical strains as well because of all the work he did was manual labor. Since we lived up in the Northeast, he had to endure all seasonal weather from Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter, with Winter probably being the most troublesome due to the snowfall that would occur during those months and the hassle of clearing it just to get to work.

Were you also working to contribute to the family's earnings?
Video Answer During the summer months around age ten, me and my sister would go and pick blueberries with a basket to sell along the roadside, but people would have to pick out the blueberries out of the basket so we could go pick more blueberries later. We sold a quart of blueberries for fifteen cents. We used the baskets we put them in to measure the amount of the quart "so when the baskets were full that's how we knew." Also, a man from the general store would buy them as well, but we never did quite find out what he used those blueberries for. I also started babysitting at age ten as well. I really don't remember how much I got paid, but I don't think it was quite much at all.

Alice at age 6

Did your parents finish high school and/or go to college?
Video Answer Neither parents finished high school. Mother didn't get past the seventh grade and father probably only had a couple of years of high school, but never finished. The main reason for this was that their families so were big back then that when they were old enough to contribute to the families' well being, they got pulled from school to earn money to help the family survive.

Do you remember going to school during that time?
Video Answer The country school was a mile away from where we lived and during the winter months, it was a task in itself to get there. It was a one room school house with a pot belly stove in the middle and a single teacher that taught everyone in all grades.

What was the difference between the country and Bar Harbor school you attended?
Video Answer The differences were that the school in town had more students as opposed to the dozen students in the country. It was harder to study with the social interaction of having more children of the same age as me. All grades were taught by a single teacher in the country with a single school house and with the school in town, it had three different school houses with three different teachers to teach their respective grades within.

How hard was it to complete school during those times for you?
Video Answer It was relatively hard for me to get through school because I was a really slow learner, and I almost got discouraged to continue with school because I didn't like one of my teachers in the town school; she always picked on the kids that were poor and my family was really poor as I stated before.

How were you able to have fun and go see entertaining things as a child?
Video Answer Video Answer #2 Video Answer #3 I was about five years old and hitched a ride on the milk truck from the country to town, and we would walk around town until there was matinee show on Saturdays and we would see it for free because my father knew the owner and he helped build as well as work on the Criterion Theatre for the owner. The owner was a nice man who did that for us otherwise; I would have never seen a matinee show ever. We saw double features which were no more than an hour long and we'd see a serial. Also parents didn't like some of the shows back then for their children that showed people going into space which many parents consider being utter lunacy.

1937 View of the theatre Alice went to as a child.

What kind of home did you live in back then?
Video Answer In the country we lived in an old deserted school house and we also lived in a one room shack with a small stove nothing like the pot belly stove.

How were the living conditions within that home for your family?
Video Answer There were no separate living areas in the house. My parents used blankets on the beams as dividers from their room to our room. My sister and I would sleep on the bottom of the bed, and my brothers slept at the head of the bed. We had a small stove for cooking, because we didn't live in the old school house for long. We also didn't have running water nor did we have electricity as well. There was no bathroom so, we had to use the outhouse, and when we needed to take a bath, my siblings and I would walk down to the stream to fetch a bucket of water to use in our small metal tub. We also didn't have privacy when taking a bath so, I learned about the birds and the bees at an early age, so to speak.

How did your family celebrate birthdays? Did the bombing of Pearl Harbor affect your family on your 8th birthday?
Video Answer We didn't celebrate birthdays with my family. I'm not too sure I remember hearing about the bombing of Pearl Harbor, but if the word bombing was ever discussed, it frightened me greatly.

Did you get everything you wanted growing up and needed as well?
Video Answer Video Answer #2 No, my siblings and I really never received anything probably because we were so poor. When we did receive a gift it was only a single Christmas gift apiece. There was something in the town like the Salvation Army that families could sign up for and if the kids wrote a letter to Santa which went to those people so that you could receive gifts dropped off by a truck. One year, my father did that for us, and the boxes we received were so horrible, even for a poor person, that he never wanted us to write another letter to town for Santa again. So the next year, we didn't write to Santa as stated, but the truck came to drop off the boxes. My father was so furious that he told them to take those back to where they came from, but the neighbor intervened and said, "let those kids have those gifts." Low and behold that was the best Christmas my siblings and I ever had.

Alice at age 10

Why do you feel your father committed suicide?
With the struggles of the depression, my father committed suicide. With all the living conditions and the low wages he was receiving as well. Outside of our shack house that we were living in, he was building a home from scrap pieces of lumber he could get from people, and that could have also been another cause for him to commit suicide by not being able to provide the best quality products for his family.

How did your family cope with the loss of your father and what hardships did your family endure because of it?
Video Answer It was very difficult and we moved closer to town. One of my brothers at age twelve or thirteen dropped out of school and became pin setters at the local bowling alley to help take care of the family, because mom forgot that she had four children to look after; she just fell apart and drank her sorrows away. My sister and I would wait after school for our brother to finish working and he'd walk us home. We didn't have much food to eat during that time either, my siblings and I were starting to develop some pretty bad malnutrition. Also, we lived in seven different places in less than two years, with mom not being able to pay the bills and leaving us children to take care of one another.

Did you have many friends or visitors at your home during your childhood?
Video Answer No not many, only a small few, and it seemed that our home was off limits to the neighbor children because of how very poor we were. Another reason was that our mother had a bad reputation around the town with her not taking care of us children. My brothers were alright finding friends, but it was very difficult for my sister and me to do the same with the reputation of our mother and being poor.

Alice Watson Age 12 (left) & friend Lorraine Tobin Age 13 (right)

How was going to church an important part of your life back then? How about your family's way of life?
Video Answer My family did not go to church, but I wanted to go and see what church was about. The dairy man's wife up the hill from us took me with her daughter and son to their church every Sunday when I could go. I went to a Baptist church and loved every time I heard the preacher's sermon, the heavenly music that was played as well as sung in church, and the people within the congregation. To my family I was consider a snob for going to church, but I didn't care and as for my families' reason for not going to church was probably induced by my father, because when he heard the church music being played on the radio on Sundays he'd say "turn that trash off."

How did you come to meet your future foster/adoptive parents?
Video Answer We lived in a rundown apartment that was adjacent to the family who later adopted me. Mr. Lymburner asked my sister if she wanted to earn a dollar by cutting his lawn. I think I was sick that day she got asked. Later, my sister asked if I could also help with the work. My sister got her pay and then took off and didn't really help out anymore; I stayed and worked for both Mr. and Mrs. Lymburner during the time we lived there.

Why did you feel the need to separate yourself from your birth family to go live with another family instead?
Well I had an unfortunate incident with one of my brothers who tried to have his way with me and that left a tremendous emotional scare on me. I ran out of my house and the Lymburner's took me in when I was in the seventh grade. Although I stayed with them from that time, they didn't adopt me until my eighteenth birthday because they felt that I left my birth family under such stressful conditions and weren't too sure if I'd want to go back to them. It was also my graduation gift from high school as well. Even though I was adopted by this family my mom came to visit me once a week while I was there and she didn't seem to mind me living with this family either, probably because there was one less child to take care of.

Lymburners' home in Bar Harbor, Maine, where she moved to after separating from her birth family

Did the fire of 47' have a personal effect on you?
Video Answer Just nerves wise because the fire of 47' was so close to our home. We stayed at the home on top of our flat roof house and used hoses to water down the house just in case the fire shifted and the Army men that were there told us if the wind shifted that we would need to head straight for the waterfront; otherwise, we might get caught within its blazes. My adopted family's house didn't get burnt, but unfortunately my cousin's house did get caught up in the fire. It destroyed summer homes and hotels as well.

These four are random images of the devistation the fire of 47' had caused

Is there anything else you would like to add to this interview?
No. There is nothing else left for me to say about the matter and I think I've pretty much covered everything I'd like too say.

 

 

Your Name and Your Interviewee- recent photo- taken during the interview?

ANALYSIS

I've learned that history is hard to gather with a small town in Northeast America. The resources were limited in what people put onto the internet as well as in trying to seek help from the local library over there. That life was extremely difficult during the time of the Great Depression and a great deal of people lived in poverty and did not have any electricity or indoor plumbing for bathrooms. Things that had happened in her life, such as her father committing suicide and that she was adopted at age eighteen, I didn't quite understand at first, but fully understood when she later told the story about it. I was saddened by it, and I think even reading the Foner book also gave great detail of the poverty of that time and seemed to fit with how I felt about the era. My six work memoir is "One's Life Is an Undiscovered Possibility" and my Grandmothers memoir is "My life's blessing given by God." She was rather joyful about talking about her past, it would seem, and seemed grateful that someone would take the time to even ask her about her life. It taught me that poverty was and still seems to be a big issue in American society, but I'd not like to end up in a position like my grandmother did back during those times. Bless her heart. Well, seeing that my grandmother rarely lies, I'd take it to account that she told me the truth, but I still did a little research on the history of the town and found some of her facts matched up to what others, also, had said happened in the town. One drawback I encountered was the lack of online resources I was able to use, about the town and its history, but finding information about the things she described were easy and efficient to find. I do believe that this assignment is an effective tool to learn about the past because one gets a firsthand account about the past through different people who lived through those different eras. Who can say they've taken the time to unlock the past of their relatives linage or history? I can say I was guilty of that, too, until personally doing this report.

 

 

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